Юность 2 2005 Стиха стихия Е. Степанов о ДООСе

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Constantine [Kedrov]

The periodical “YOUTH”№ 2, 2005 g.

Constantine THE CEDARS: THEM ABSORBED ALL VERSES ELEMENT…

Conversation they conducted Eugene Stepanov Julian [Sharanina]

Merry poetic association [DOOS] (the volunteer association of the protection of dragon-flies) once, when by all it [vzgrustnulos], followed Beaumarchais's precept: poetic champagne uncorked, and it threw bottle with its manifestos in the sea. And here now, already 20 years later, bottle swam up to us, and in it - the poetic manifestos, which play by the phials of sense and sound.


Amur loved [Psikheyu],
and [Psikheya]
its love it did not know,
[psikhuya].
Them it absorbed all
verses element -
Amur, the verse
and the psyche Of [psikhei].


Specifically, thus wrote then poet, doctor of philosophical sciences, inventor of the word “of [metametafora]”, which flew around now entire world, Constantine [Kedrov]. Now he became the laureate of the reward Of grammy.ru. 11500 Russian-language of the users of the Internet named the main poetic event of year his poem “the computer of love”.


Sky - this is the height of the view
View - this is the depth of the sky
Pain - this is the touch of the god
God - this touch of pain…


Poem is written per year base [DOOSA], in 1984. Now it is transferred into all basic languages of peace. Then all this was forbidden or [poluzapreshchennym]. Today [DOOS] wires for sound by its texts the arches Of [sorbonny], [lyubimovskoy] Taganka, Vatican.


The entire world - rel.un. A [O] IN E I Y -
the ocean of the sensations
In it there is one molded edge - [u] [o]-
the feeling
In it there is one wave - Yu [o]-
the love
But wave - this of drop, drop
drops resound [techenya]
and entire ocean of the sensations
Yu [o] pierces!


Helen [Katsyub]'s this. But, after visiting guests in Bach in Leipzig, it composed the new seam, in which the melody of Orpheus and the melody of Bach merged into the united musical- philosophical sounding: “From Orpheus- Bach/Feuerbach's formula: /“Human to human - god”.
The name of Helen [Katsyuby]'s book “games paradise” sounds and as call - play! Is such entire poetry Of [dOOSa].
Without [DOOSa] it would become boring to live. Poetic dragon-flies in contrast to the [krylovskoy] dragon-fly got accustomed in the Russian snows and is let out number after the number their “periodical of poets” with the musical names: “Hamlet years”, “the Tigris games”, “the file of [layf]”, “[Dao] Of [dOOSa]”, “ah bang”. [Novodoosets] Alexander Bubnov sang on the guitar:


Cup, been cast to the floor -
to the floor on it is complete it is complete


Very creator of words [DOOS] and of [metametafora] was disappointed in the letters and he writes with the notes:


I
MI
mho OF THE RE-
yu
from
[Do]
to
[Do]


And on the eyes, it is more accurate, on to rumor it is converted into “the beast of notes”:


To-note- AVR
[LYa]-note- AVR
MINOTAUR


- As did begin [DOOS]? - we asked to resemble Constantine Cedar, congratulating him on anniversary.
- My verse, which gave name [DOOSu], concludes with the words: “The unchecked blood conversely does not start! /[DOOS] - volunteer association of the protection of dragon-flies”. I, of course, had in mind godly [Dao], way of sky; therefore there there are these lines:


The receipt, which I obtained,
it blazes by sunset,
there solar press.
It is necessary to entrust eternity only,
all the remaining time
it is better not to entrust.


At first us there were three. I, Helen [Katsyuba] and Ludmila [Khodynskaya]. It now reads lecture about the poetry, including about [DOOSe], in the Netherlands. When in the 90th in [DOOS] began to enter other poets, the idea to give special titles to all [DOOSam]- men arose. Andrey Voznesensky and Heinrich [Sapgir] steel, on their own request, by [strekozavrami], and I by [stikhozavrom].
- What “[zavrami]” did become poetesses?
- All poetesses - dragon-fly. The ant from Krylov's fable said about them with the reproach: “You everything did sing? This is the matter. So go dance”. But to dragon-flies it is especially comfortable among the Minotaurs, [strekozavrov], [stikhozavrov] and other poetic poultry, because -


The Earth flew
according to the laws of the body
and dragon-fly flew
as she wanted


- One of the best-known Slavists of Europe professor Willem [Veststeyn] named the poetic language Of [dOOSa] starry esperanto.
- I think, so it there is. I wrote the poem “Of [astral]”. It was formed from the constellations, the root “of asters” and “the stars”.


Pegasus [pogas]
Mizar twinkled -
the tsar of [zertsal] and persons
Altair - altar
Aria of Deneb - to the sky
Star everywhere -


the scope of the verbal sky is such
- A Helen [Katsyub]'s dragon-fly at this time lime-pit its [palindrAmy]… This is its word?
- Yes, so it named ridiculous [palindromicheskie] [peski]. But I named its creation “of [palindronavtikoy]”. Two [palindromicheskikh] dictionaries, where from the language are recreated 16000 palindromes, and [palindromicheskie] texts - aerobatics!


To [ave], Eva!
Mind give to Adam.
- Rad I, eat snake gift.
But honey - demon,
to sky tambourine,
of night whip it.
- I - the lasso of stars, hell, opening, the sign of paradise,
I - moon of zero,
paradise to hell arcade!
The pattern of angel lay on the rose.
It is tender
it flew,
the harmony of Evas knew.
In hell evil crawled the boa constrictor.
AL pupil - eye of charms of evil.


Generally Helen calls that the fact that she makes, with linguistic realism. This when word itself dictates sense and form of verse.
- For which they do assume in [DOOS]?
- Andrey Voznesensky, let us say, very god of poetry ordered to become [stikhozavrom] and to enter in [DOOS] in 1999 with the flock of its by [videom], [krugometov] also of other poetic fireworks.
[Lingvozavr] twisted Melnikov it creates its unique [muftalingvy], where the words grow from each other and are connected up chain, almost in hundred languages. [Ognezavr] Of [garik] Vinogradov continues his fiery- aqueous mysteries. Bare shaved, similar to the ancient-Egyptian priest with the gas burner in the hands he proclaims the areas of Russia and Europe by his secret incantations. Alexander Bubnov, [palindrozavr], protected doctoral dissertation about the palindromes and created the unique periodic table, it is more accurate than Bubnov, where there are the unfilled cells for the new, yet not created varieties of palindromes. The professor of Kazan' conservatory, poet, [zvukozavr] Lawrence blinov writes poetic symphonies. But university professor Martin Luther in Germany and the founder of academy By [zaumi] of [zauzavr] Sergey [Biryukov] let out anthology by [zaumi] “to fate reproach”. Poet- alchemist professor Vadim Rabinovich, [doosozavr], prepared monograph about the Russian advance guard, where it is said: “Advance guard - always the first line on the first page”. This is entirely applicable to [DOOSu].
- As does appear rite, or ceremony, method in [DOOS]?
- They earlier three times laid sword, and now - who what wants. To someone tuning fork, to someone glass dragon-fly, it is special for this prepared.
- [Strekozavr] Andrey Voznesensky wrote preface in the verses for your collected works “or”: “[Konstantiruet] cedars/the poetic code of decrees. /[Konstantiruet] the cedars/of the Nedra passed kilometers”. And still: “It will come the harmony of [kredova] - constanta it is cedar”.
- Yes, this it to me from India on the telephone dictated, costing under the tree, where Buddha obtained his enlightenment.
- [DOOS] does refer to [Dao] and to Taoism?
- Here rather are important the specific associations, which gives birth to accord itself between the name [DOOS] and the Chinese word [Dao]. Thus appears relationship with the aesthetical study of the [daosiyskikh] monks, who despised the infirmity of the human terrestrial mind, incapable to regain vision the godly plan of the creator of the universe. The language of poetry reveals the sometimes concealed connections between the objects. Therefore because of the poetry it is possible to much more deeply understand peace, than than via its logical understanding.
Sounding word plays in this case the decisive role. In reality eighty percent of the content contain sound. “So the word of vrede (peace) includes rede (speech, reason)”, noted [V].[Veststeyn]. In this case the discussion deals not about everyday reality, but with reality of space. [DOOS] prefers to speak out at the higher level, which allows for the created by language values and associations to cause to the life space, analogous [Dzen] of sensation. Space finds the adequate verbal expression, when he speaks in his language, [nekoem] “starry esperanto”.
… On the evening “minute of [nemolchaniya]” in 1988, I remember, Andrey Voznesensky to honor new poetry by the minute of cry. As and freely it shouted well then!
- Judging by the communications of foreign media outlets, For [dOOSam] was possible to be shouted till heard to the apexes [Parnasa]. Program CCN showed your appearance in [Sorbonne] and were named you most probable [nominantom] to the Nobel Prize on the literature. How you did perceive?
- Our matter - to create new. Here everyone speaks - advance guard, advance guard… But, in my opinion, avant-guardist - synonym of word poet. I am surprised, as this others write one and the same, by one and the same size, on top of that and borrowed in Pushkin. However, the motto Of [dOOSa] coincides with the motto tele-mskoho of abbey in To [rable]: “Each it makes, which wants”. About this me reminded the friend Of [dOOSa] (there is this title) Aleksey [Khvostenko], who wrote music to the song “above the sky by blue is a city of gold”. He lived in Paris. There dwells dragon-fly - artist, poetess, Christina Matgrass's [perevodchitsa]. It transferred in the French of main [DOOSov]. Because of it took place in 2002 the appearance in [Sorbonne]. Judging by the applause, transfer was completely adequate.
- Your group conducted the first world day of poetry in Russia…
- Yes, on March 21, 2000 on the request of UNESCO [DOOS] for the first time in the country finished celebrating this day in the theater of Yuri Liubimov on Taganka. We obtained the thank you letter from the commission of the Russian Federation in the affairs of UNESCO, where there were these words: “The success of the evening, prepared into the so compressed periods, the wide resonance. Which was obtained this measure, it makes it possible to speak, that the basis of the tradition of the celebration in Russia of the international day of poetry is laid”. So they happened. Holiday was inculcated.
- For many complete unexpected contingency became the success Of [dOOSa] at the world book fair in Leipzig, where [DOOS] arrived with Natalia's university Nesterova. Indeed, you will agree, the members of your “poetic cell” write not for the general public, their texts, according to your their own expression, are “commentary to the great silence of space, or by commentary to the absent text”. This commentary it means it deserves in order to it to listen.
- I went there, as the dean of the department of poets and philosophers it was pleasantly astonished, when rational Germans on hurray accepted our “periodical of poets” and my appearance. Can because much it did not need transfer, she sounded, as music.
- You write not only with stars, but also with notes…
- Not I am one. Recently in [DOOS] entered the dragon-fly Of [alla] Of [kesselman], the laureate of the All-Russian competition of young composers. Now it works on probation in Germany in very outstanding specialist in the musical advance guard. It created fantasy “installation of silence”, which at the festival in Moscow fulfilled famous Netherlands “[Shenberg] the ensemble”. But in me there is “commentary to the absent text”, which each reader can continue: “This text is commentary to the absent text. At the same time absent text is commentary to this text….” One criticisms indignantly it wrote: “In that case, text is everything”. I with it am agreeable. Well, and last note chord - this is melody for my [dudochki]:


The Lord awarded me
[dudochkoy] in hell -
du-du-du- du
du-du- du
du- du
du-du- du